PCI video cards for NT/x86 and PCI Mac

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Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:54:27 -0500

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WinMac Digest #275 - Monday, April 5, 1999

  RE: [WinMac] Re: removing NT from disk
          by "Leslie Williams" <williaml@union.edu>
  booting NT
          by "David Cabin" <dsc@ecsd.re50j.k12.co.us>
  Streamming Audio
          by "Omar Chávez" <OmarChavez@fliteline.usa.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Streamming Audio
          by "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Streamming Audio
          by "Marc Bizer" <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu>
  RE: [WinMac] Streamming Audio
          by "John Hanks" <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] MacServerIP: anyone heard of this?
          by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: Proxy server
          by "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
  Mac Outlook -- multiple users?
          by "Frankenstein, Paul" <Frankens@wnet.org>
  Re: MacServerIP: anyone heard of this?
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  RE: [WinMac] Mac Outlook -- multiple users?
          by <PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil>
  IMAP email and attached files
          by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
  Re: IMAP email and attached files
          by "Marc Bizer" <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Mac Outlook -- multiple users?
          by "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com>
  RE: [WinMac] Mac Outlook -- multiple users?
          by "Frankenstein, Paul" <Frankens@wnet.org>
  limiting attachment size at IMAP server
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: HIMEM.SYS switches
          by "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: IMAP email and attached files
          by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] limiting attachment size at IMAP server
          by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] IMAP email and attached files
          by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
  Fwd: Re: removing NT from disk
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  PCI video cards for NT/x86 and PCI Mac
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>

Subject: RE: [WinMac] Re: removing NT from disk
From: "Leslie Williams" <williaml@union.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:49:41 -0500
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That will work and using the SYS command you can delete these files
from the root directory:

Pagefile.sys, Boot.ini, Ntldr, Ntdetect.com, Ntbootdd.sys

Subject: booting NT
From: "David Cabin" <dsc@ecsd.re50j.k12.co.us>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:00:56 -0500
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Delete the boot.ini, ntldr & ntdetect.com. Then using a bootable DOS
disk, probably
the bootable disk from Win98 run from the A: prompt. sys c:. This
will transfer the
proper system for booting win98.

dsc

The reason I ask, if you remember back a while ago I was asking for help
on reinstalling NT. Well, we tried everything we could think of, even
deleting the partition (extended logical drive) where NT was installed.
But I always get the same result, after the initial load, when NT
reboots, it gives me a Device not found error when looking for the hard
drive.

Subject: Streamming Audio
From: Omar =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ch=E1vez?= <OmarChavez@fliteline.usa.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:01:03 -0500
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Has anybody had any experience with hosting live RealAudio streams?

If so, Which route would you rather go NT or UNIX?

My next project requires some sort of Audio Streamming capability
(Windows and Macintosh clients) and I'd love to hear your comments and
recommendations.

If it was possible, I would prefer to go with a MacOS X solution
(RealAudio is available for FreeBSD 2.2.1 and other flavors of UNIX,
MacOS X is BSD-based). The question is: How difficult would it be to
recompile the app from FreeBSD to MacOS X considering the different
processors used?

Thank you in advance for your always expert and kind advice.

Cheers,

Omar Ch=E1vez
Director of Technical Services
*********************************************************
=46lite Line Equipment Corp.
Corporate Headquarters
1100 NW 163rd Drive
Miami, FL 33169 USA
Tel (305) 626-0004 Fax (305) 626-0566 www.flitelineUSA.com
*********************************************************

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Streamming Audio
From: "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:11:48 -0500
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> Has anybody had any experience with hosting live RealAudio streams?
>
> If so, Which route would you rather go NT or UNIX?
>
> My next project requires some sort of Audio Streamming capability
> (Windows and Macintosh clients) and I'd love to hear your comments and
> recommendations.
>
> If it was possible, I would prefer to go with a MacOS X solution
> (RealAudio is available for FreeBSD 2.2.1 and other flavors of UNIX,
> MacOS X is BSD-based). The question is: How difficult would it be to
> recompile the app from FreeBSD to MacOS X considering the different
> processors used?

Hi Omar...

i'm thinking that unless Real starts to officially _support_ MacOS X
as a server, it's not going to be an option. The RA Server is *not*
Open Source, at least the last time i checked. Even if the port was
easy, you'd have to wait for *them* to recompile it.

Might be a good thing to ask them to do, assuming Apple hasn't already
asked them. :}

--Darryl

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Streamming Audio
From: Marc Bizer <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:13:03 -0500
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On 4/5/99 at 10:08 AM -0700, Darryl Lee wrote:
>Might be a good thing to ask them to do, assuming Apple hasn't already
>asked them. :}

Well, given that Apple is going to be offering its own streaming
solution in QuickTime 4.0, I don't know what the chances are of that
happening!

--Marc

Subject: RE: [WinMac] Streamming Audio
From: John Hanks <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:28:46 -0500
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Hi Omar,

We do a small amount of Real Video streaming using the free basic realserver
on a small Linux machine. If you are not looking for high volume, I
recommend grabbing an old Pentium machine and sticking Linux and the
realserver on it. Our machine is a P120 with 64MB RAM. It has (to my
knowledge) never served more than 17 streams (56k/28.8k on demand audio and
video) at once, but it did that without breaking a sweat.

I ran the 5.0 realserver on an NT machine for a while, but have found that
the Linux box requires less admin time once it is set up. For my situation
this was no fault of the realserver, but because of the other things the NT
box was doing.

The Real people are sort of slow about bringing updates to the Mac. But
basic versions of the server, player, and producer tools are free, so you
can't beat the price.

jbh

John Hanks, Computer Specialist
jbh@biology.usu.edu
Dept. of Biology
Utah State University

-----Original Message-----
=46rom: Omar Ch=E1vez [mailto:OmarChavez@fliteline.usa.com]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 10:01 AM
To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list
Subject: [WinMac] Streamming Audio
Importance: High

Has anybody had any experience with hosting live RealAudio streams?

If so, Which route would you rather go NT or UNIX?

My next project requires some sort of Audio Streamming capability
(Windows and Macintosh clients) and I'd love to hear your comments and
recommendations.

Thank you in advance for your always expert and kind advice.

Cheers,

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] MacServerIP: anyone heard of this?
From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:33:16 -0500
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"Chick Foxgrover (by way of Marc Bizer)" wrote:
>
> Just heard about this today and all I've seen is this web page. Has anyone
> ever heard of this or the company?
> http://www.teamasa.com/cyan2.htm

Not this but Asante has/had NetDoubler which sounds like basically the
same thing.

______________________________________________________________________ Tom Roth Wake Forest University School of Medicine tomroth@wfubmc.edu Dept of Biomedical Communications http://www.wfubmc.edu/biomed/ Medical Center Blvd Tel 336.716.4493 Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1011 ______________________________________________________________________

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: Proxy server From: "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:03:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Alex wrote: > What we really need the Proxy server for is: > > Firewall security > Caching

Welp, i would recommend NAT instead of Proxy, because it's so much easier to set up on the client-side (and from my limited experience with proxy servers, on the server-side as well). However, none of the NAT products i know of support caching:

SyGate (www.sygate.com) under NT IP Masquerading (ipmasq.cjb.net) under Linux

So then, maybe you could get a separate program to do caching. There's Squid Cache (squid.nlanr.net) for Linux (or really, any Unix)

But i guess WinProxy (www.lanprojekt.cz/winproxy/) and WinGate (www.wingate.com) are integrated cache/proxy servers, so you don't have much of a choice there.

Er, anybody know of a proxy-cache (that *just* caches web pages) for NT?

-- Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com> | Geek? Who me? <http://www.darryl.com>

Subject: Mac Outlook -- multiple users? From: "Frankenstein, Paul" <Frankens@wnet.org> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:33:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Anyone out there know how to setup Outlook to run for multiple users on a single Mac? If it makes any difference, it's quite likely that the users affected have their accounts on different Exchange servers...

TIA,

Subject: Re: MacServerIP: anyone heard of this? From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:45:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

HAD NetDoubler... Since discontinued at about version 1.5.2 or so.

Sorry, Dan

At 12:33 PM 4/5/99 -0500, Tom Roth wrote: >"Chick Foxgrover (by way of Marc Bizer)" wrote: >> >> Just heard about this today and all I've seen is this web page. Has anyone >> ever heard of this or the company? >> http://www.teamasa.com/cyan2.htm > >Not this but Asante has/had NetDoubler which sounds like basically the >same thing.

Subject: RE: [WinMac] Mac Outlook -- multiple users? From: PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:51:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

The terminology you'll need to look for is "Profiles". There can be multiple profiles to support multiple users and/or one user with multiple service characteristics (servers, dial-up vs. always connected, etc.).

You set it up using Outlook Settings, an alias for which you'll usually find in your Control Panels. If it's not there, the application itself is installed in the same folder as your Outlook client application. Make sure Outlook isn't running, and then launch Outlook Settings.

From the main window, select "Show Profiles". You'll probably see a single generically-named profile. I usually try to name the profile according to the user name, matching login ID, or according to the type of special service it uses. In any case, you can create and configure multiple profiles. In the set-up process you can enter different server identities. I believe you can also duplicate existing profiles and then edit the copy, changing only the user name.

Things to look out for: - Personal Address Books. Will each user have a separate one? Where will they be saved (locally or on a file server). - Personal Folder: Same as above. - Profile Passwords: You can enable password so that users have to authenticate themselves locally even before logging into the Exchange server. - Start-up profile: From within the Outlook client, you can set a configuration to prompt the user to select a profile during Outlook launch. Failing this Outlook will open with a default profile selected.

So what you most likely will have is a two-step process. First, use Outlook Settings to create multiple profiles which specify Exchange server, UserID, PAB location, and PST location. Second, use Outlook client to specify that you want to be prompted for a User Profile at startup.

Once the profiles are created, their services can be adjusted from within the Outlook client (Tools: Services).

Good luck.

________________________________________________________________________ Brooks Peters (301) 227-1243 (voice) NSWC - Carderock Division (301) 227-5930 (fax) Code 5500 (Bldg. 18, Rm. 127) mailto:PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil 9500 MacArthur Blvd. West Bethesda, MD 20817-5700

> ---------- > From: Frankenstein, Paul > Reply To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list > Sent: Monday, April 5, 1999 3:33 PM > To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list > Subject: [WinMac] Mac Outlook -- multiple users? > > Anyone out there know how to setup Outlook to run for multiple users on > a single Mac? If it makes any difference, it's quite likely that the > users affected have their accounts on different Exchange servers...

Subject: IMAP email and attached files From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:08:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Our organization recently switched over to an IMAP mailserver (Netscape) and is having us use Netscape Communicator on the client end as well. So far so good. We used to use Eudora with the POP protocol which would of course download email onto that local computer. Now with IMAP we can leave the mail on the server which allows us to access and read the same mail from multiple places. This is great for our Biomed email account since I can check the mail on my Mac or on our NT workstation or my coworker can do the same from his computer and we're both looking at the same Inbox, Outbox, etc.

Now the problem. Our clients send us attached files and sometimes they are quite large. We tell them to limit their attachments to 2MB or less and if they are bigger use our web site file upload. They don't listen of course. What I really need to do is to be able to get the attached file off of the mailserver completely but then leave just the email message on the server. That way we still can read & reply from any computer but the attachment isn't taking up all the disk space on the server.

Does anyone know if you can delete an attached file without deleting the email message? I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.5 and I just finished playing around with Eudora 4.2 and neither of them seem to have this option of deleting just the attachment. They want to delete the message, attached file and all. I've been all over the Netscape site and have not found a way to do this. If anyone has an answer or any suggestions I'm listening.

TIA!

Subject: Re: IMAP email and attached files From: Marc Bizer <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:09:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

On 4/5/99 at 4:05 PM -0400, Tom Roth wrote: >I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.5 and I just finished >playing around with Eudora 4.2 and neither of them seem to have this >option of deleting just the attachment.

Eudora 4.2 can delete attachments in POP mode (you tell it not to download messages bigger than X number of bytes, and then when the headers of the message with an attachment are downloaded, you open the message, click on the trash icon and check for mail), so I wonder why this doesn't work with IMAP.

--Marc

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Mac Outlook -- multiple users? From: "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:21:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

<!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> Re: [WinMac] Mac Outlook -- multiple users?

It's really easy -

1.    Create a new folder titled with the user name in the "OE User(s)" folder within the Outlook Express folder.
2.    Launch Outlook and it will then ask you what user you would like to you in accordance with the folders in the "OE User(s)" folder.
3.    Set up the new account.

"Frankenstein, Paul" wrote:

Anyone out there know how to setup Outlook to run for multiple users on
a single Mac? If it makes any difference, it's quite likely that the
users affected have their accounts on different Exchange servers...

TIA,

p

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Subject: RE: [WinMac] Mac Outlook -- multiple users? From: "Frankenstein, Paul" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:24:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Thanks, but I'm looking for Outlook solutions. Outlook Express is somewhat unsatisfactory for our needs, unfortunately. > ---------- > From: Christopher Schobert > > It's really easy - > > 1. Create a new folder titled with the user name in the "OE > User(s)" folder within the Outlook Express folder. > 2. Launch Outlook and it will then ask you what user you would like > to you in accordance with the folders in the "OE User(s)" folder. > 3. Set up the new account. > > > Christopher Schobert > Creative Technologies Specialist > > Foote Cone & Belding - NY > 150 East 42nd Street > New York, NY 10017 > 212-885-3852 > cschobert@fcb.com > * Windows-MacOS Cooperation List * >

Subject: limiting attachment size at IMAP server From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:28:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Tom:

"The Bat!" is a small (fits on a floppy) shareware eMail reader that will do what you want... ZDNet (Ziff-Davis) has it on their site, and was reviewed in an Anchordesk article... Give it a spin!

Also, you *may* want to limit attachment size at the server, i.e. anything over 2 MB is bounced...

Cheers! Dan

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: HIMEM.SYS switches From: "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:30:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Or, you can try a command like this:

DEVICE=[DRIVE][PATH]HIMEM.SYS /V

The switch will list what errors Himem discovered when booting. It's called verbose mode.

Good luck,

Chris

> > -----Original Message----- > From: winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu > [mailto:winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of John C. Welch (by way > of Marc Bizer) > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 12:30 AM > To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list > Subject: [WinMac] Re: HIMEM.SYS switches > [unnecessary quoted text deleted] > Does ANYONE, (dan?), have handy a list of switches for himem.sys? I > distinctly remember one for A20 line troubles, But I can't remember what > it is.

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: IMAP email and attached files From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:34:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

> On 4/5/99 at 4:05 PM -0400, Tom Roth wrote: > >I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.5 and I just finished > >playing around with Eudora 4.2 and neither of them seem to have this > >option of deleting just the attachment.

Marc Bizer wrote: > Eudora 4.2 can delete attachments in POP mode (you tell it not to > download messages bigger than X number of bytes, and then when the > headers of the message with an attachment are downloaded, you open > the message, click on the trash icon and check for mail), so I wonder > why this doesn't work with IMAP.

It might had I check that box not to download messages bigger then X number of bytes! :)

I want the attached file, I just don't want it to live on the server. I want to be able to get the email message (with attachment) and once I've got the attached file on my local computer I want to be able to leave the email message on the server but without the attachment. If I delete the message I loose both the message and the attachment. I only want to delete the attachment on the server only.

Subject: Re: [WinMac] limiting attachment size at IMAP server From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:34:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Daniel L. Schwartz wrote: > "The Bat!" is a small (fits on a floppy) shareware eMail reader that will > do what you want... ZDNet (Ziff-Davis) has it on their site, and was > reviewed in an Anchordesk article... Give it a spin!

I shall take a look at it.

>Also, you *may* want to limit attachment size at the server, > i.e. anything over 2 MB is bounced...

Can you do that on a per message basis? They've limited the total email account to 10MB already but if I get five 2MB messages then I'm full up and even if someone sends in a tiny file it gets bounced.

Subject: Re: [WinMac] IMAP email and attached files From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:35:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Tom Roth wrote: >

> Does anyone know if you can delete an attached file without deleting the > email message? I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.5 and I just finished > playing around with Eudora 4.2 and neither of them seem to have this > option of deleting just the attachment. They want to delete the > message, attached file and all.

A kludgy way of doing it is to 'reply' the message to yourself. Then keep the reply and dump the message with the attachment.

-- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group

Subject: Fwd: Re: removing NT from disk From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:50:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

> Did you turn OFF "Virus Prevention" in the BIOS before installing NT4?

Don't know about virus on the BIOS, don't think it's there, have never seen it and the first time I installed NT it didn't bother me but I'll check.

> Also, when you tried to install NT4, did you do the "floppy shuffle" or >did you boot into windoze 98 and run F:\i386\winnt32.exe /b ? >[Where F: is the CD drive (change as needed), winnt32.exe is the 32 bit >version of the installer, and the /b switch makes it a floppyless >installation.]

Both, and everything else I could think of. Actually both ways about 10 times each.

Thanks

Anything else you can think of?

Alex Dearden pata@doglover.com

Subject: PCI video cards for NT/x86 and PCI Mac From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:54:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

>I need suggestions for video cards for both NT/x86 as well as >PCI Mac that >have the following 4 properties: > > 1) PCI bus only; > > 2) At least 8 MB of *RAM for 32 bit color at 1600x1200; > > 3) Optimized for 2D video for DTP for fast screen redraws;

IX Micro makes great cards for the Mac. I have one in my PowerTower pro and no complains. I have also installed them for customers and they seem to do the trick.

Alex Dearden pata@doglover.com

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