Re: DHCP: to be or not to be? (WinMac Digest #282 - 04/12/99)
David McKnight(dmcknight[at]fleetwood.com)
Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:17:25 -0500
WinMac Digest #283 - Tuesday, April 13, 1999
Re: DHCP
by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: web contents software
by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: [WinMac] VPC Printing Gibberish to HP 6MP
by "John Santora" <bbstenor@home.com>
Re: [WinMac] Tell Netscape to use Eudora or Outlook?
by "thorstadj" <thorstadj@macconnect.com>
RE: DHCP: to be or not to be?
by "Neil Jedrzejewski" <jed@grafx.co.uk>
web contents software for Holly
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
RE: DHCP: to be or not to be?
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
[WinMac] RE: DHCP: to be or not to be?
by "bartosh" <bartosh@tamu.edu>
Re: Problem with G3 Front Page access/ NT Server
by "Nick Scalise" <nicks@radiks.net>
Re: Problem with G3 Front Page access/ NT Server
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Re: [WinMac] VPC Printing Gibberish to HP 6MP
by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Re: DHCP: to be or not to be? (WinMac Digest #282 - 04/12/99)
by "David McKnight" <dmcknight@fleetwood.com>
Subject: Re: DHCP
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:54:16 -0500
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> Second, if you have a laptop and the university has multiple
>subnets you can take it to any room with an active network port and
>plug it in and have all of it's settings automatically configured for
>the subnet that you are on. This is something that is starting to
>happen where I work and to date our solution has been to configure
>many laptops with two static IP addresses which doesn't always work
>perfectly. DHCP is a much smoother solution for the end user, and if
>it's implemented properly you won't notice when you go from one
>subnet to another, everything will just work.
DHCP can be very beneficial when setup properly.
However, for Windoze (and *nix) users, be very careful of your HOSTS
file. If you had some mappings in there when you were using static IPs
make sure you delete them, or better yet, delete the whole hosts file
since the machines will first look in the host files for name to IP
address resolution and then everywhere else. This can result in a lot of
headscratching (and maybe some hair-pulling) when you go to DHCP.
On the Macs you don't have that problem because, even though the Macs can
use a hosts file, unfortunately, the entries have to be Fully Qualified
Domain Names (FQDNs) and HAVE to be in a DNS server, in other words they
have to be true A Records or CNAME records.
Alex Dearden
pata@doglover.com
Subject: Re: web contents software
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:54:31 -0500
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> Both Mac & Windows have good Web authoring tools; but cross-platform
>team-based tools are scarce... And as you see with FrontPage, they can also
>be buggy.
Try unsing Adobe GoLive (formerly GoLive Cyberstudio). Right now it's
available for the Mac and will be coming very soon for the PC. I use it
to create and mantain web sites and haven't found anything better out
there.
I agree with Dan in sticking to one (albieit platform-specific) software
for creation. Then you can use other tools for maintenance and uploads,
etc. The nice thing about GoLive is that you can do everything with it!
Alex Dearden
pata@doglover.com
Subject: Re: [WinMac] VPC Printing Gibberish to HP 6MP
From: "John Santora" <bbstenor@home.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:54:36 -0500
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Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> John Santora wrote:
>>
>> When I try to print from Win95 to the PostScript 6MP driver to LPT1:, I get
>> pages of gibberish, as if the printer was set for PCL but receiving raw PS.
>
> Yep, that's what's happening, likely. A PCL printer sees PS as plain text
> (which it is...). Worse is a PCL printer accidentally chosen as the recipient
> of a dot-matrix print job (happened once) then you get _hundreds_ of pages,
> often with just one character printed on them somewhere.
>
Well, the 6MP is supposed to be an autosensing PS/PCL printer -- and I've
fiddled with the PS properties in many different combinations, trying to
force the printer to see PS, but it still prints just the raw data.
>> The VPC Preferences say to print through a PS driver. What gives? Should I
>> use a generic Apple LaserWriter driver? Or is something wrong with my
>> configs?
>
> Go download Adobe's PostScript printer driver for Windows and install that on
> the VPC side. End of problems. You'll need to get the HP PPD (PostScript
> Printer Description) files from Adobe as well.
Just did that, installed the Adobe PS driver, and *no change*. Still
printing raw PS data from VPC. I had previously heard that the Adobe drivers
*are* more stable than HP's, so thanks for that tip.
Any other ideas???
John Santora
Toronto, Canada
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Tell Netscape to use Eudora or Outlook?
From: thorstadj <thorstadj@macconnect.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:54:45 -0500
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>I have Netscape 4.x on my Mac and PC. On the Mac I want to tell it to use
>Eudora for mailto: on the PC I want it to use outlook. All it wants to use
>is itself. How do I force mailto:?
First step is to get rid of Communicator and get Navigator stand-alone.
Internet Config on the Mac works for me.
Jeff T
thorstadj@macconnect.com
Subject: RE: DHCP: to be or not to be?
From: "Neil Jedrzejewski" <jed@grafx.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:20:34 -0500
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> From my reading of this and other lists, I foresee problems for
> users. I'm
> particularly concerned about Mac users (of which I am one). So do we (PC
> and Mac users) gain or lose by this change? All informed opinions and
> experiences are welcome as I'd like to garner views from all sides of the
> issue.
Hi Lesley,
I have little experience of DHCP but of what I've had I've had some success
and problems.
First of all, several people have said that they have problems using NT as
a DHCP server when connecting with Macs. One of the biggest culprits seems
to be under the Advanced User Mode settings of the Mac TCP/IP control panel.
It says to 'Load TCP/IP when needed' and people have reported that when
the protocol hasn't been used for a while it drops it, thus leading the
MS DHCP server to believe it has finished with the lease of the IP. When
the Mac then tries to reload the protocol and use the last IP, its been
given to someone else or unavailable.
People have said setting the TCP/IP control panel to have it loaded perman-
ently helps and also increasing the lease time on IP addresses.
On a second note, I've used the DHCPD daemon that comes with Redhat Linux
5.2 running on a Sun Sparc for a while now. The Mac's don't have any
problem with it, but the PC's do. It is documented that there are quirks
in MS TCP/IP protocols that don't like DHCP and despite my server offering
IP addresses, the PC won't accept them.
I've installed all the MS recommended patches and hot-fixes to try and
solve it and nothing works. At present, I have a Microsoft engineer calling
me about twice a day trying to solve this.
Hope this is of interest.
- Jed
Subject: web contents software for Holly
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:42:44 -0500
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Dear Alex,
Adobe GoLive is nice, but it's not team-based, i.e. only one user at a
time. I took a look at Holly's site at:
<http://www.PlaneBusiness.com>, and essentially her site is simple enough
so that only one user needs the site management tools.
After viewing Holly's site I would recommend sticking to one
platform...
The powerful image prep capacity (scanning & Photoshop) of her G3 isn't
needed. The most important part of her news-based site is the content, and
keeping it organized.
After some private correspondence, I would advise her to look at Team
Fusion Server... Not to be confused with Cold Fusion. The advantage of Team
Fusion Server is that in addition to the standard client software (which
works about the same way as Cold Fusion), there is also a browser-based
tool that is platform independent, i.e. if someone is on the road at a
trade show they can log in on a laptop and insert text into pages already
created, or into templates.
The downside is that Team Fusion Server is expensive: About
$2500 for the
software, plus either an NT/Workstation or NT/Server (x86 only, drat!) to
run it on.
I have Team Fusion Server running at a customer's location
<http://www.hemnet.com> and it runs quite smoothly. There are 4 instances
(4 Services (processes) taking about 24 MB of RAM each) of the Team Fusion
server running on top of NT/Workstation on an IBM PC Server 325 with a pair
of 233 mHz PII CPU's, 256 MB of ECC RAM, 9 gig 10,000 RPM UW SCSI HDD, and
Matrox Millenium II video card going into a 21" monitor at 1600x1200
resolution. This is also a Photoshop workstation and it runs a Team Fusion
Client. The Team Fusion Server runs as a Service in the background (a
"faceless" application in Mac-Speak), so even if nobody is logged on
locally the Team Fusion Server runs 24/365.
It's a complicated system -- In fact, I only bought and set up the
hardware and NT, with someone else installing the Team Fusion Server. The
plus to this is remote content creation.
Cheers!
Dan
At 11:54 PM 4/12/99 -0500, Alex replied to my post to Holly:
>> Both Mac & Windows have good Web authoring tools; but cross-platform
>>team-based tools are scarce... And as you see with FrontPage, they can also
>>be buggy.
>
>Try unsing Adobe GoLive (formerly GoLive Cyberstudio). Right now it's
>available for the Mac and will be coming very soon for the PC. I use it
>to create and mantain web sites and haven't found anything better out
>there.
>
>I agree with Dan in sticking to one (albieit platform-specific) software
>for creation. Then you can use other tools for maintenance and uploads,
>etc. The nice thing about GoLive is that you can do everything with it!
>
>Alex Dearden
>pata@doglover.com
Subject: RE: DHCP: to be or not to be?
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:43:34 -0500
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Jed,
When you use the Red Hat DHCPD daemon you mention that it has problems
with the PC's. Which PC OS' are having trouble: windoze 3.1, wfw 3.11,
windoze 95/98, NT/Workstation? More specifically, does this problem occur
with NT?
Also, when you use NT/Server as a DHCP server, for how long did you set
the lease time... Hours, days?
Cheers!
Dan
At 07:20 AM 4/13/99 -0500, Jed wrote:
>
>Hi Lesley,
>
>I have little experience of DHCP but of what I've had I've had some success
>and problems.
>
>First of all, several people have said that they have problems using NT as
>a DHCP server when connecting with Macs. One of the biggest culprits seems
>to be under the Advanced User Mode settings of the Mac TCP/IP control panel.
>
>It says to 'Load TCP/IP when needed' and people have reported that when
>the protocol hasn't been used for a while it drops it, thus leading the
>MS DHCP server to believe it has finished with the lease of the IP. When
>the Mac then tries to reload the protocol and use the last IP, its been
>given to someone else or unavailable.
>
>People have said setting the TCP/IP control panel to have it loaded perman-
>ently helps and also increasing the lease time on IP addresses.
>
>On a second note, I've used the DHCPD daemon that comes with Redhat Linux
>5.2 running on a Sun Sparc for a while now. The Mac's don't have any
>problem with it, but the PC's do. It is documented that there are quirks
>in MS TCP/IP protocols that don't like DHCP and despite my server offering
>IP addresses, the PC won't accept them.
>
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Subject: [WinMac] RE: DHCP: to be or not to be?
From: bartosh <bartosh@tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:53:06 -0500
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> Jed,
>
> When you use the Red Hat DHCPD daemon you mention that it has problems
>with the PC's. Which PC OS' are having trouble: windoze 3.1, wfw 3.11,
>windoze 95/98, NT/Workstation? More specifically, does this problem occur
>with NT?
>
> Also, when you use NT/Server as a DHCP server, for how long did you set
>the lease time... Hours, days?
That's a good point- have seen nt screw up mostly with short leases.
There are just too many odd little screw ups, however, for me to trust it.
Subject: Re: Problem with G3 Front Page access/ NT Server
From: "Nick Scalise" <nicks@radiks.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:53:30 -0500
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I and my partner in crime use Dreamweaver. He on NT and I on a Mac. While
not a perfect solution, it is getting better. No problems with Front Page
extensions - doesn't need 'em.
BTW NetObjects does not sell Cold Fusion, Allaire does.
Good luck,
Nick
[snip]
--
Nick Scalise
nicks@radiks.net
Subject: Re: Problem with G3 Front Page access/ NT Server
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:59:00 -0500
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Oops! I can't keep track of all those software houses! :)
At 09:53 AM 4/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I and my partner in crime use Dreamweaver. He on NT and I on a Mac. While
>not a perfect solution, it is getting better. No problems with Front Page
>extensions - doesn't need 'em.
>
>BTW NetObjects does not sell Cold Fusion, Allaire does.
Subject: Re: [WinMac] VPC Printing Gibberish to HP 6MP
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:59:03 -0500
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John Santora wrote:
>
> Well, the 6MP is supposed to be an autosensing PS/PCL printer -- and I've
> fiddled with the PS properties in many different combinations, trying to
> force the printer to see PS, but it still prints just the raw data.
>
Have you set the default protocol on the printer to PS? Sometimes that
helps...we usded to have problems on our networked HP 3si (another
'autosensing' PCL/PS printer) it would go into pcl mode and stay there.
> > Go download Adobe's PostScript printer driver for Windows and
>install that on
> > the VPC side. End of problems. You'll need to get the HP PPD (PostScript
> > Printer Description) files from Adobe as well.
>
> Just did that, installed the Adobe PS driver, and *no change*. Still
> printing raw PS data from VPC. I had previously heard that the Adobe drivers
> *are* more stable than HP's, so thanks for that tip.
Ok, now you've run into the ghost .dll problem...I've had that happen
more than once. If you have installed the Windows PS and HP print
drivers there's _some_ .dll that hangs around messing up things. My
solution is to delete all your printers . Whenever they say 'This
printer used some files that no other uses, delete?' delete them. Then
shutdown and restart Windows, that seems to convince it that you mean
business :-/
Then re-install the adobe drivers..
If that doesn't work, it's some odd thing about VPC, I'd guess.
--
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group
Subject: Re: DHCP: to be or not to be? (WinMac Digest #282 - 04/12/99)
From: "David McKnight" <dmcknight@fleetwood.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:17:25 -0500
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LESLEY:
We've just implemented within the last couple of months at our
corporate campus.
I currently have five Mac users and eight Wintel users in my department (I use
both, but predominantly Mac), and have had no problems whatsoever -- before
implementing DHCP on the Macs, our IS department tested the system. Their plan
was to maintain static IP addresses on the Macs (in a majority PC
environment on
campus) if DHCP became problematic.
In our department, we're running OS 8.0, 8.1 and 8.5 on the Macs -- all with
OpenTransport.
Our Fiery XJ server was given a new static IP address.
I think the key is to do like our guys did, and go in with an open mind, rather
than forcing everything to work under one standard.
DAVID
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> Subject: DHCP: to be or not to be?
> From: Lesley Vita <lesley.vita@darwin.ntu.edu.au>
> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:51:04 -0500
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>
> Hi all,
>
> My university is slowly shifting to DHCP from static IPs at the behest of
> our support staff. I can accept that life is easier for them (or they think
> it will be) under DHCP, but what's in it for us users?
>
> We have the usual 10baseT TCP/IP network with multiple subnets and mixed
> Mac and PC platforms. Servers are NT, Novell and Unix.
>
> From my reading of this and other lists, I foresee problems for users. I'm
> particularly concerned about Mac users (of which I am one). So do we (PC
> and Mac users) gain or lose by this change? All informed opinions and
> experiences are welcome as I'd like to garner views from all sides of the
> issue.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lesley Vita
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