Mac vs. NT servers
Marc Bizer(mlbizer[at]mail.utexas.edu)
Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:18:06 -0500
WinMac Digest #289 - Tuesday, April 20, 1999
Re: DAVE
by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Congrats to Alex!
by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
[WinMac] Re: DAVE
by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: [WinMac] Dave's Dreadful Documents
by "Tim Scoff" <casper@nb.net>
Russian Word File
by "Geoff Cross" <geoff@crossx.demon.co.uk>
Re: Dave's Dreadful Documents
by "Philip Neukom" <pneukom@interlog.com>
Re: [WinMac] Russian Word File
by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
Grab an IP address [WAS:Re: Dave's Dreadful Documents]
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Re: [WinMac] Re: Dave's Dreadful Documents
by "Tim Scoff" <casper@nb.net>
Re: [WinMac] web contents software for Holly
by "Holly Hegeman" <hhegeman@planebusiness.com>
Mac vs. NT servers
by "Marc Bizer" <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: DAVE
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:27:23 -0500
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>Before I struggle thru Dave's appaling manual for the hundredth time I'd
>like to know if it's actually worth persevering. What do list members think?
definitely. Give it a try, you won't be disappointed!
>Would having COPSTalk installed on the PC prevent me from using Dave as
>well?
no. But I would recommend one or the other. I would got with DAVE.
Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com
Subject: Re: Congrats to Alex!
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:28:31 -0500
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> Again, Congratulatyions on passing your MCSE exams!
Thanks, now I can concentrate on REALLY USEFUL stuff like LInux ;)
It really means a lot to me to pass these bloody tests, since I come from
a Mac background. And the only reason I include it in my signature is
that you guys (other geeks like me) are the only ones who understand what
that means ;)
Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com
Subject: [WinMac] Re: DAVE
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:52:25 -0500
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>Before I struggle thru Dave's appaling manual for the hundredth time I'd
>like to know if it's actually worth persevering. What do list members think?
definitely. Give it a try, you won't be disappointed!
>Would having COPSTalk installed on the PC prevent me from using Dave as
>well?
no. But I would recommend one or the other. I would go with DAVE.
Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Dave's Dreadful Documents
From: Tim Scoff <casper@nb.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:49:39 -0500
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I ended up using a Hosts file like the following and Dave
started to work perfectly for me:
ED1 CNAME ed1.sched.pitt.edu
ed1.sched.pitt.edu A 136.142.66.171
ED3 CNAME ed3.sched.pitt.edu
ed3.sched.pitt.edu A 136.142.68.102
If you have a WINS Server it also works perfectly.
Tim Scoff, MCSE
casper@nb.net
<http://www.nb.net/~casper/>
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0. The world's only fully buzzword compliant
Operating System.
Subject: Russian Word File
From: Geoff Cross <geoff@crossx.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:15:45 -0500
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Dear List,
I use Macs and have received a PC originated Word97 file which contains
Russian text.
My set-up has Russian Keyboard Kit, plus Cyrillic fonts. File opens OK
using Office 98 but not Russian!?!
Does anyone have any ideas what I should do to access this file.
Cheers,
Geoff Cross (Harrogate)
Subject: Re: Dave's Dreadful Documents
From: "Philip Neukom" <pneukom@interlog.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:22:17 -0500
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Gareth, I agree that the documentation could be better, but it is worth
persevering. I use Dave at multiple client sites to attach my powerbook
directly to Win98 machines (file sharing) and NT networks. My clients
wouldn't allow using Mac NT services nor would I expect them to
accommodate my needs.
I have found it is actually easier to set-up Dave to connect to a NT
network than to figure out how to get a Win98 machine connected and
running. Perhaps I was lucky that my client's IT resource was available
for 30 seconds to give me the info to connect to the network. It took
the same person trying to connect a Win98 machine over an hour to get
connected.
All that was required was to set up TCP/IP control panel on the
powerbook and then the Dave control panel info. The TCP/IP network
address was entered as a new location/setting and in Dave TCP/IP was
selected, pswd and user id entered and voila! Now I just wish I could
print to non-postscript printers somehow. I haven't used any of the
other features etc. of Dave, so I can't comment how easy they are to get
going.
The only problem that I am having is with one client who doesn't have an
resident NT network admin. The never available outsourced person refuses
to tell me the IP address since he thinks that I don't need the info.
Since they aren't using the DHCP (dynamic ???? something or other) but
TCP/IP, I need the IP address to enter into the TCP/IP control panel to
connect via Dave. What is so secret about the IP address I'll never know
....
Good luck.
Philip
Gareth said
>Before I struggle thru Dave's appaling manual for the hundredth time I'd
>like to know if it's actually worth persevering. What do list members think?
----
Philip Neukom, CMC (Advantage Renascence International Inc., Canada)
Tel: 905 - 337 - 7111 Fax: 905 - 337 - 7850
Internet: pneukom@interlog.com
"One who is confused in purpose cannot respond to his enemies." Sun Tzu
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Russian Word File
From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:48:41 -0500
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Geoff Cross wrote:
> I use Macs and have received a PC originated Word97 file which contains
> Russian text.
>
> My set-up has Russian Keyboard Kit, plus Cyrillic fonts. File opens OK
> using Office 98 but not Russian!?!
>
> Does anyone have any ideas what I should do to access this file.
I've no experience with foreign languages but it might be a missing font
problem. From the originated PC in MS Word 97 have the user go to Tools
--> Options --> Save and then check the box for "Embed TrueType Fonts"
and resave the file.
--
______________________________________________________________________
Tom Roth Wake Forest University School of Medicine
tomroth@wfubmc.edu Dept of Biomedical Communications
http://www.wfubmc.edu/biomed/ Medical Center Blvd
Tel 336.716.4493 Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1011
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Subject: Grab an IP address [WAS:Re: Dave's Dreadful Documents]
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:55:09 -0500
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Philip:
You can always go to a windoze 95 box and get its IP address;
and then try to connect to the LAN using other address' in the
subnet. If the address is already in use, then Open Transport will
not connect...
Cheers!
Dan
At 02:22 PM 4/20/99 -0500, Philip wrote:
>The only problem that I am having is with one client who doesn't have an
>resident NT network admin. The never available outsourced person refuses
>to tell me the IP address since he thinks that I don't need the info.
>Since they aren't using the DHCP (dynamic ???? something or other) but
>TCP/IP, I need the IP address to enter into the TCP/IP control panel to
>connect via Dave. What is so secret about the IP address I'll never know
>....
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: Dave's Dreadful Documents
From: Tim Scoff <casper@nb.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:55:40 -0500
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If you enable the printing support in the Dave control panel you'll be able
to use non PostScript printers with Dave if they're shared on a Windows
network.
Why aren't they using WINS at that one client's location? If they are
using a WINS server and you plug it's IP address into Dave you'll be able
to access the entire network with no problems.
Tim Scoff
casper@nb.net
"Trust the computer industry to shorten "Year 2000" to Y2K. It was this
kind of thinking that caused the problem in the first place."
Subject: Re: [WinMac] web contents software for Holly
From: "Holly Hegeman" <hhegeman@planebusiness.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:13:32 -0500
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Thanks to all who wrote to me in regard to the problem I was having with
FrontPage. Actually the solution to the immediate problem was rather
easy--once we negated every possible problem on the NT side.
What was happening was that there was not enough memory allocated to
FrontPage Explorer on my Mac side, even though I had stepped it up to
10,000K. I stepped it up to 20K and presto, the site then downloaded with
no problem, and no "Unexpected Exception" notices. I heard from more than a
few others on the list who were experiencing the same problem, and yep, the
additional memory allocation worked every time.
Thanks for all the suggestions on what we might want to do going forward
with other programs as well. We are going to get the new site up and get
the bugs out first--and then take a longer look at where we go from that
point.
Thanks again!
Holly Hegeman
Subject: Mac vs. NT servers
From: Marc Bizer <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:18:06 -0500
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Hi everyone,
There's an interesting MacWorld article on the subject at:
<http://macworld.zdnet.com/1999/04/features/servers.html>
--Marc
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